My thoughts too John; as our "new"" name CCA affects how we are now looked upon at the American Numismatic Association as well. "Chips and Tokens" are substitutes for money .... which is the definition of Numismatic. There is nothing numismatic about swizzle sticks, matchbooks, ashtrays, dice, posters, keychains, slot cards, room keys, etc. (many of which I collect too).