Hey Jim, Before driving to Vegas for the convention I visited my daughter who lives in Pasadena. Archie asked me to get him some Hard Rock pins from Tijuana so I was forced into making that trip down I-5. I left Pasadena at 7:45 AM & returned 11:30 PM. It took me 3 hours to get just south of Los Angeles! One minute I was zipping along at 80 MPH & the next I was sitting in gridlock for an hour! This is the way it was going & returning. I'll take the 150 mile trip to Key West, on a two lane highway, with the Gulf of Mexico on one side & the Atlantic on the other, any day of the week! I have no idea how you folks do it!