You are probably right and again... the only reason I evaluated them the way I did is because I have so may of them. The KEYSTONE chip is nice and I have not seen too many of them but, it only has a Seymour value of C $2 to $3. The Fleurs are very common, and what I thought was the horseshoe is actually a common C monogram. It looks like there are some stampted chips there too but who knows.