We can stick our head in the sand and say there is no shill bidding, but I for one believe there is. Why?? because where money is involved scams follow. And while we would like to believe every chipper is honest and ethical, history proves this false. Now for the 99%+ that do live by the standards of honesty don't take this as an attack on members, it is not. It is just MHO of reality. The near impossible task is to prove the shill bidding took place.