Boy.... you know the hobby has sunk to a new low when we have to discuss if the fakes are fakes. An uninformed lay chip person would commonly think that fakes are worthless. So they, with experience, would learn about Borland fake chips that actually have a value. But now they have to learn that there is someone that has produces worthless fakes to mimic the other fakes. Next we're going to need a price guide to differentiate the fake fakes from the real fakes. Ouch, my head hurts!