I am perfectly OK with it also. But I also have intellectual curiousity. What we have is irrelevant, if you had been there when the original idea of a club germinated, what names would you have suggested. I understood your comments, I asked you a different question. I don't have any expectation of a change, nor do I necessarily advocate change, but I have imagination, curiousity, and intelligence. They allow me to take a hypothetical and consider it. Try it (it is good for you).