John, you have done more to help than 99% of the rest of the "chippers" that I had hoped to reach. Yes, its a bad week only two weeks before the convention, also during the 4th of July, etc, etc, but that's the ball game I was handed and so far I have not been able to field a team. Dale and I have been discussing agendas and are open to any type of activity that would attract more enrollment, short of dancing girls and free booze. We are trying to stay within the confines of chips and tokens and its not working. Just hope they are not laying back til the last month before deciding to come since the deadline is May 15th and then its cancelled. ANA has never offered a spot on the Summer Seminars, and we ARE the largest sub-chapter with a chance here to make a place nationally to reach coin dealers thanks to Ken Hallenbecks efforts. Whatever.....the horses are at the watering hole. When do they start to drink?