Good comments Rick. I know a lot of people who agree with you. Yes, back in my early days, I was a bit of a hot dog, but I quickly grew out of it. On the other hand, I certainly have my moments, usually about politics. LOL. I just find it amusing that you see a difference in behaviors. You stated, "What I find offensive is what Ramirez did. It was a 'look at me I am wonderful' move. You don't see the parallel in the NFL? If the touchdown antics are not 'a look at me I am wonderful move', then I don't know what is. I suppose we will just have to agree to disagree. Have a good one.