John; There is NO solution to pleasing everyone about ANY SUBJECT on this bb. <g> Thanks Bob and John for the good riverboat information however. Yes, you are correct. A.C. minimums are killers. However, even with the $10, $15, $20 and $25 minimums on busy weekends, sometimes roulette players can't hardly find room at the rail on a table to buy in! When one buys in for $30 and walks with ten chips, that's why asking prices of $3 to $4 each are not uncommon for current A.C. roulettes. On the other hand, some obsolete A.C. roulettes go begging at $2 and $3 each. Go figure.