Following on from Jason's thread earlier, here is the info on my 'find'.
A week ago I saw an ebay seller with 'undescribed' poker chips for sale in quantities of 200, all using the same picture.
I noticed on one of the auctions that 'Andy' (Lowin??) had asked the seller a question whether anything was printed on the chips, and the response was 'they are blank'.
I contacted the seller and then spoke with him and found out that these chips had been discovered in a liquidators lockup and would have been disposed of had someone not had the idea to try selling some on ebay. Being totally unaware of what the chips were, the seller had managed to find one of each that were 'readable' and used pictures of those to sell the chips, 99% of which were blank.
That said, absolutely no criticism of the seller who described them as nothing but 'old poker chips'. He told me that of the 1,100? chips so far sold, about 20 may have had writing on, the rest did not. He sent me a picture of the actual chips supplied so far and they were generic C&S roulettes.
He asked me if I would be interested in buying all the chips that were discovered, near 8,000 in all. I was warned a large number were broken or damaged, or unreadable. I took a chance at 4c a chip + $150 to ship the lot here and received them all last Friday. The only info from the liquidators was the tag that they had originated from Daish's Hotel, Isle of Wight (just off the UK mainland and part of the UK for those that dont know). The chips arrived by courier, from the Isle of Wight.
I only had time to open and briefly inspect the contents due to other things this weekend. Having no knowledge of the casino or location I left an enquiry with an ex-Huxley friend at UK gaming, planning to come back to these later, but Jason's post earlier prompted me to follow it up today.
Three quarters of the chips were broken or turned to dust It was apparent this was due to them having dried out and cracked rather than poor handling or shipping. A further quantity of chips were totally smooth
I salvaged around 400 cash chips and 300 only slightly used generic C&S (roulettes)
I went through those cash chips today and have about 100 only in total that are 'saleable', either with full or partial hotstamp, or at least fully legible. I even found one with a double hotstamp
There were 9 different cash chips, and as they varied from the pictures I had seen, I asked the seller what he had supplied elsewhere, and learned that he had apparently sold a couple of stacks of 'Kingsway' 50p and £50 chips which were not in this lot.
Now what surprised me was that half the chips in this lot were 'Kingsway' and not 'Georgian Club'. Also I noticed a generic looking £25 jockey mold which I also mentioned to my friend.
This is the info I got back. Remember this is based on a verbal transcript of old files which they were only able to find because Jason had a date, and also some research Jeff Lindsay had completed in the past.
Daish's Hotel, which was already fitted out for gaming for 'elaborate parties' (illegal games I bet ) made a very late application for a gaming license under the name 'Island Casino' (as Jason's newspaper article reported). The application was submitted by George James (same owner as the Kingsway which was about to open also in Southport, 250 miles away).
The application was approved but there was insufficient time to have chips made. John Huxley co-operated, with Gaming's approval, to arrange for the rack from the 'Georgian Club' in MALTA which had shortly before closed, to be temporarily used, as almost all the rack had been accounted for. The £1 and £5 rack for the Kingsway had just been manufactured in readiness for their opening, and the owner (as he had every right to do) used a number of those to supplement the Georgian chips, again with approval from gaming. Looks like these chips never made it to the Kingsway
Now the last part of interest is that Huxley's apparently got slapped wrists by supplementing the limited number of £25 Georgian chips with the generic Jockey mold chips with no casino name, and suggesting it was ok to use them as they were 'non-duplicate' Nowadays you would laugh at that, but bear in mind the UK Gaming board had only been existence a couple of weeks, and the 'rules' were not yet cast in stone.
Also interesting no record was found of 'Island Casino' checks, and judging by the phenominal amount of wear, I wonder if these chips were actually used from open to close (whenever that was).
I aint going to get rich on these, and I probably barely have enough decent ones for all that will want them, so I am happy to sell them all asap on a best first basis
Pictures and details will be in an attached post.
How coincidental Jason's Kingsway info came to light today also
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