Re: Millennium List - w/ additions & subtracti
Posted By: Larry Hollibaugh <sweetie@gbis.com> (rno-max2-45.gbis.net)
Date: 2/22/0 08:48

In Response To: Millennium List - w/ additions & subtractions (Michael Ludwig)

"Seems to me if you're not going to include chips the casino clearly marketed as millennium chips but didn't put the word millennium ON THE CHIP, you shouldn't be including chips issued for the wrong millennium either. Silver Club put out 2 chips at the same time. One says millennium and one says Y2K. Is this a 2-chip set, or was one an error? Are you going to split them into two sections of the list or drop one off? The Y2K Bug chip does NOT say millennium!

The only casino that beyond a shadow of a doubt got it right, you have listed as questionable. The Hilton chips say "Countdown 2000" but don't say what they are counting down to. The frame and all the advertising literature clearly does.

So now do we have a whole new category of error chip? Chips that commemorate something but don't clearly identify the commemorated event."

Hi Larry,

First of all, I was hoping to stay out of the debate as to what is considered the correct Millennium. In listing these chips, do you think they should be in 2 catagories: Millennium & Millennium 2001??

When I specified the chips on the list should have "Millennium" on them, I took my lead from what I perceived as the hobby's general acceptance of "Grand Opening" chips in that the chip would have the words "Grand Opening" on it. I have found that chip documentation from one "chip historian" would indicate a chip was meant for a Grand Opening but another "chip historian" does not. Case in point, Janice O'Neal lists The Horseshoe Tunica's "Collector Series" (1995) chip as the one used for their Grand Opening, but Greg Susong does not list that chip in his Guide To American Riverboats as their Grand Opening. Then again, Greg lists The President casino's "Collector Series" (Iowa) as their Grand Opening even though it does not state so, but Janice does not. I have found, though, that the vast majority of chips/tokens used as "grand openings", but do not have GO on the chip, have not been listed as GOs. In the case of the Hilton, Reno's "Countdown 2000" series, the case is certainly made that they were made for "a" millennium, their intent seems clear by their pre-issue literature. But then again, I have doubts about some casinos who have issued chips with "2000AD" "1-1-2000" "Happy New Year 2000" "2000" etc. on them, and that's why I excluded them from the list. The word "Millennium" still seems to be the key.

Mike

PS. I overlooked the 2nd Silver Club chip, thanks for bringing it to my attention. It's coming off my list.