No Dave, If I have heard it once, I have heard it many times: If your mouth is big enough to bust bal*s, then step up & try to make the change you think is right. If all you have is mouth, "SHUT IT" There is an old saying that still says it all "Action speaks louder than words" It's not very hard to mouth off for those who have little to contribute other than bad breath, So lets see them step up & do something (anything) Lets get back to the CCGTCC & stop the crap from a few jerks. Enjoy