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I agree with Von...
In Response To: Regardless of the percentages ()

I agree with Von. Don't sweat it. I'm happy to see new folks playing in our tournaments - wish I could have played in the tournament last night. You'll see me at the tables (joeprogramer). I don't think I've played in a tournament with you yet and look forward to it.

Please don't take any "poker talk" personal. Anytime a person posts a message about how another player played or misplayed a hand, you have to expect other opinions. Especially on this board. I actually felt you were making a couple jabs about how he played so I posted those percentages to stir the pot a little bit. grin

I actually don't totally disagree with you about his call. Even if you had any pair at all you are probably at worst a 66% favorite or there abouts. It appears to me that the total amt in the pot was about $2200 when Andy H called the final $965 bet. He could have folded and still had about $1300 to fight with (BB was $100 - not sure how much longer was left in the round). If he calls, he is at best a 2/1 dog at best unless he puts you on a stone cold bluff. Sometimes when I'm faced with a big call like that after your re-raise... what I like to do is to ask not only am I maybe getting the proper price but also ask another question... Do I want to take a underdog shot at the pot for one more card if it is putting my tournament in jeopardy if I'm wrong or lose the hand by missing the draw. Sometimes it's not a bad thing to fold a hand in those cases IF I have enough chips left to continue on and surrender right there. (Even if I think the pot odds are close).

But I think we should look at how you played the hand too... You have admitted that checking the flop showed weakness and you should have done a continuation bet after the flop. One could also argue that raising preflop with 78os is not so great a play especially if you don't plan on playing like Aces on the flop. You already missed your opportunity to take the pot after the flop so a re-raise after Hughes' turn bet is questionable in my opinion too.

The last mistake you made was commenting about the hand in the first place which prompted the discussion. grin Now I know how you play even before we sit down with each other! grin grin grin

Like I said. Don't sweat it. I still have much to learn about poker and enjoy discussing and/or debating hands. I know I play poorly most of the time I play and always look at how I can make myself better.

Good luck at the tables!

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Hey Dennis! grin Thanks for...
Work. He called me from his car
And where were YOU, Mark? grin
Walked in the door 5 minutes after
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Here is the hand!
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Percentages in the hand...
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One thing about poker is that...
Unfortunately the odds on PokerStars are not
can you quote any expert studies...
More loose players in online games
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No worries... I won't be doing any flaming....
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oh ya.... trying to get me (easy money) at the...
I'll let ya know.
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All-In with Jack High vbg
I agree with Von...
Re: your welcome Andy Congrats ! AGAIN! vbg

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