Travis,
One last point and I'll drop the subject. I never decline to give my opinion about the value of a chip. However, ususally the chip is KNOWN and no additional time on my part must be spent trying to determine where it comes from.

It took me a couple of hours to dig out the info on the "Plaza" chip. I had received a couple of e-mails about it and Lueders asked Joe Shaw for more info so I posted it. The dealer who sold this chip as Las Vegas, and to my knowledge still sells this chip as Las Vegas, reads this board. The only reason in my opinion that he reads this board is to get info for the chips he sells. He gives nothing back to the hobby in terms of chip history or sharing of information. How can he share anything - he doesn't know anything about chips all he cares about is how many or much he can sell. I'll be damned if I'm going to spend my time researching his chips so he can make money!!! If that's what people believe this hobby is about - than in my opinion they are wrong. Take care Travis, Best - Jim