Marv; I understand the reasoning by some of those who don't know any better. Our concern is with some of those whom I do know, KNOW BETTER! I would hope that some of them are reading these various exchanges and will see the light and change their questionable practices in future ebay sales. It would be nice if we could visit ebay in a couple of weeks and do another search of the word "rare" under casino collectibles and come up with less than 50 finds... rather than the hundred something that are presently listed. That would demonstrate some progress.