Personaly I do not care how the dice are canceled as long as it is a casino cancel and not a factory reject cancel. Drilled dice are fine as long as the logo is not damaged. I have quite a few pairs (some are old nitrate dice) that are keychain drilled, I just throw the little chain away. I am now up to 640 pairs, and 70 singles cataloged and a bunch that came in the mail the last few days that need to be cataloged. I will be hapy to trade dice. I have an extras list on my website that I need to update in the 2 weeks as a bunch has been traded away and there is a bunch to add to the list.