Andy - I forgot to thank you for the link above even though I had been there and didn't really get much from it. Thanks!

No books - I bought a few pair of dice from a guy that said he'd send me the book when he was done selling 40 or so pair of dice, but he never did. He was the one who told me Jeff had passed away and at that time the diceman's site was still up.

I've been talking to a guy who is selling off dice from Jeff's estate on eBay. He asked the club if they were interestd in preserving Jeff's site and hasn't received a response.

I offered to house it for free, maybe not as a domain, but as a subdomain of one of my web sites and he is considering it.

I'd hate to see all that knowledge lost because on the net it's easy to find. Naturally Jeff would be credited with the entire body of work, I'd just preserve it.

Thanks again - I have a matched stick of Frontier dice that are iffy. I powdered them last night as it was about all I could think of. I was told that those particular dice do breakdown and there isn't much I can do about it.

I will "clear coat" them in a month if they get any worse, as they are and will be a permanent piece of my collection. Last resort, but desperate times call for desperate measures.

Thanks again for taking the time to respond.

Sonny