Thanks Robert. I only had time for a quick look in the Seymour book I have (which may be the old one, I'm not sure, I've had it for several years) before I left for work. Do you (or anyone) know if there are names for the chips? The one I found was Fleur De Lis. One of the group of four looks like a sunburst. Not sure what the other group of four is supposed to be?