Excellent post Al, I'm glad you admit to the FU's. I too hope he would learn from the mistakes but it hasn't happened yet and I think there have been far too many mistakes made NOT to change some things. If the FU's would stop, the HR and our club could be GREAT partners as they do have some of the most collectible LE chips around. I know the HR doesn't need us as they're BIG and we're relatively small but it isn't good "business sense" to alienate anyone........