There are always going to be exceptions. There are chips that have been obsolete (according to my definition) that have later become current. Which would fit your LE example. Another example would be the Harrah's Lake Tahoe $1 PMSC chips that were retired and then put in use in the Harrah's Reno casino. In Nevada, it is possible to get obsolete chips from the cage, if a customer has turned them in. I would still consider such a chip to be obsolete.

Charles... I agree with you 100%. I like the idea of obsolete chips coming back into play and becoming non-obsolete.

The LE scenario, however, should not be considered an "exception" because it is a constant state of affairs and should be included within any definition. The concept of "would the casino sell you the chip (by policy... not if you happen to be friendly with the cage person) or place the chip into a fill if they had it in the cage" should be included in some way. That would take care of an awful lot of "exceptions".

Just my thinking... I don't think we'll ever come up with anything good enough to satisfy everyone. If anyone thinks the issue is important enough, an idea would be to come up with a list of all the possible elements that could be included within a definition -- add the plusses and minuses of the inclusion of each --- and take a club-wide vote on it (stick a loose page in the club magazine). Probably have more activity with this than with the general election.