"Yes I got the chips from Carl."
Did you get them from him at the Bellflower show in 1989-90?

"Castaways supposedly ordered the chips."
The chips were made after the Castaways closed. They never seen the inside of the Castaways.

They are in the same catagory as the Silverbirds and Holiday International chips. They were all made for the same man. They were all made at the same time, after the casino closed. They are counterfits made for the express purpose of selling them to collectors as real chips.