I took some time to consider Charles K’s question (paraphrased) : Break up the “Plain” mold grouping of chips on MOGH/ChipGuide? Or keep as is? If break into smaller categories, how?
As I think about it, it makes my head hurt!! There are pros & cons.
The category is nearly 36,000 entries, which is about 23% of ALL the chip entries. Lots of TYPES of plain mold / no mold chips there too. However, as I work with the various H&C molds which have been subdivided, I would sometimes prefer an all-H&C category when I’m not sure which H&C I’m seeking. Finer categories have both +’s and –‘s.
Breaking out Chipcos makes sense, if they are mint-marked. Some are; most are not. They can be confused with B&G smooth molds (like many of the Palms chips).
Breaking out other manufacturers is possible, where mint-marks exist and are explained. Many don’t have mint-marks though, such as the older BJ plain molds. And there are additional chip makers with plain molds that aren’t represented here -- ex: Classic Poker Chips does plain molds too.
The current “Plain” mold category includes types as diverse as: Older style no-molds; plain-inlaid; plain-diecut; PMSC-brass core chips; a lot of roulettes (various makers); plus a lot of non-casino / advertising / and miscellaneous chips with plain/no molds.
In working through some examples, there are mint-marked chips from the following (at least):
Chipco: “CI” marking; “CHIPCO” marking; most unmarked though
B&G: “BG” marking on some; many unmarked
Bud Jones: “BJ” marking on some newer; most unmarked
Icon: “I” logo (inside box); ICON (spelled out)
Matsui: “M” marking
GameOn: stylized “GO” looks like a spade
Authentic Products: “AP”
Gemaco: “G” (short-lived)
PGI: “PGI” mark (?)
Langworthy / RTP / WICO: Specialized insert patterns on their plain molds.
Some of these marked / unmarked plain molds are illustrated below (all pics from ChipGuide).
My conclusion thus far … Yes, I’d like to see some groups broken out, but not sure how, without it getting overly complicated. Maybe a Chipco group; a B&G group; maybe a BJ group; a Brass Core / PMSC group. Leave the rest together. Maybe a tutorial somewhere on the ChipGuide on the various mint-marks? I’m not opposed to “keeping it simple” and leave as one big group. It’s a tough call.
Older Varieties
Chipcos
B&G
BJ
Brass Core / PMSC
Others with mint-marks
Langworthy / RT Plastics / WICO
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