~~~ "provenance" is virtually the key when such is tagged and offered by someone trusted... Though, other known examples of the same item does not suggest such item(s) were also from the same location. It all boils down to trust; though documentation can play a big part which, even with photos (see Lakeside sale thread photos in index below), doesn't guarantee accuracy since sales have been known not to be accurate. In short; persons who seek such pieces from Saratoga clubs know who to ask and buy from. Such generics made by the hundreds of thousands could have been used anywhere; before and after and onward.