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From my previous post, I would agree with you to an extent. As you say, whether the seller of an item was as you said "Willingly", I would say Knowingly, committing, or possibly perpetuating the fraud or not, the buyer has still been victimized by some fraud. My only point would be who committed the Fraud. The last seller, or the person who may have wrongfully misrepresented the chip in the first place. As I said, I would agree that it doesn't matter to the buyer who got ripped off.

However, I am not a lawyer but, I would think that Legally the seller in this case may not be committing fraud because he too might be a victim and is just representing the item as it was represented to him. This problem happens all the time with art and antiques where someone buys or finds an item with a certain understanding of it's background and if given inaccurate information perpetuates the misinformation by selling on the understanding that they had. Buyers, as I said in the Rizzo thread need to be alert and careful about what they are buying. That is why I agree that it is good that those with experience and knowlege should feel free to point out errors and misinformation that is presented in an ad. They should not be criticized for doing that either. However I am of the feeling that the warnings and notices can be made without having to immediately resort to name calling and accusitive statements. As was mentioned before, if someone is notified that their auction is misrepresenting some item and the seller responds to "Kiss Off" or something than I would say All's Fair.

I have read a few times where someone has posted a simple warning and notified the seller and the seller would kindly write back acknowleging an error. The auctions had been promptly corrected. I will admit though I have read some warnings where the seller did not respond or responded with some comments of mind your own business or something. Personally I would, if selling something, independantly try to confirm tall tales or stories that someone tells me before selling an item. That though is no guarantee that I will still get accurate information on everything I might acquire. From reading the current and completed auctions for the person described here, he does not seem to be a chipper or dealer. He seems as though he may be an antiques dealer or picker who gets old toys, china and other items and tries to resell them He does have a few chips for sale as well as an ashtray and a couple of other casino items. Most of his items though seem to be old toys. He may not fully know what he is selling and is just, as I said earlier perpetuating a story that was told to him. He may therefore be mistaken and neglegent but is he being deliberately fraudulant?

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