Well said Joe. Thanks for your posting. I considered Joe Pavlik a friend as he was one of the first club members to answer questions, discuss the old casino days and convinced me to join the club at my first convention. Joe was not perfect, who is, and did not need to be trashed because of a few kind remarks posted about him a few days ago. I know the leadership of the club cannot control the postings by its members on this site, but maybe one of the leaders could respond to the negative vibe that this trashing of Joe Pavlik is stirring up. A non response by the leadership can also be taken "as a response" by most who post on this site.