used in different casinos...when discussing the upcoming catalog. We both agreed that the best way to call most casinos in the catalog, and being 100% correct, when we did not know the exact name/origin, was to call them by its letters, untill a source showed up which would give 100% assurance of its origin . And a large number of these names will be found in Cuban libraries and books, most of which are spread throughout collectors and locked up in Cuban libraries.

When chipping first happened in Cuba, the Cubans gave a name to the chips in order to get better prices and give the chips a sense of belonging, and a reality that would make Americans dream of such places (which only existed in the mind ot the creative sellers), many of which were as far from reality as I am from Australia. And those that came to America without a name soon had a name, thanks to original USA sellers, many of which actually did not even make sense in Spanish. But that is how Cuban chips without the name of casinos on them were first named.

Over the years, after much research, in Cuba and in the USA, many of us were able to pin point many chips, through pictures of casinos, coat of arms of Clubs, regional literature, advertisement, etc. We have been able to correct many names, others, such as the HdA, still with unknown origin, are still called "Hotel de la Artistica," a nice sounding Spanish name but which makes no sense what so ever in Spanish, obviously created by a non-Spanish Speaking seller. And now used even in Cuba.

Still, like most things in life, after a while, lies and half truths get repeated so often that at some point they are accepted as truth, and people , without any research or back up, will start to repeat and defend the previous lie, to the point that truth starts not to be accepted.

For example, in this particular chip the catalog name will be:
AVP and then mention themost probable origin(is). So, in the case of the AVP, the Catalog would show basically this:

[b]A.V.P.- Unknown origin. Chips have been attributed to " Antiguo Palacio del Valle, Cienfuegos" & initially to the "Associacio...., Habana). etc

So, we can name them as we like, I guess,, nobody has the pattent for these unknown places and hope that once Cuba opens up, after the dictatorship is overthrown, we should be able to find the correct names and origins of most chips. Until then, however, I believe we should not succumb to the old names and ways when names were given in order to sell, but rather adapt to the newer names given by the work of many researchers who may not know everything but who have now found reality & in many cases close to it & whose intention was never to sell a chip but rather learn and teach.

..... BTW, the Association of owners of the Vedado never existed as a true entity and certainly was never issued a gaming license, that one is quite clear and easy to prove as its non-existance is present in all of the books of the City of Havana.
Thanks for looking