Thanks Dan! Think you understand my thoughts. I was referring to a Town Tavern $25 chip (TCR V5776) in my previous post. Personally I'm curious about a Santa Anita (V1479) rated R8, and a Double O Club (E4368). Gotta believe others have chips they wonder about as well. As years pass, how can we know that more of these chips don't show up making their previous rating retreat ????