We just got the free computer from Emachines a few weeks ago and I gave it to Cindy because Win 8 is just unbearable. It doesn't even have the start button so you can find everything about the computer in one place. If they hadn't pinned the windows explorer to the task bar I never would have found that either. Win 8 will probably go down as the only version worse the Win ME. It took me over an hour just to figure out how to download AVG virus protection and I have done that about 10 times in the past with no trouble. I still can't get her address book loaded, just can't figure it out! GARBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!