These guys are not collectors, and have no interest in collecting.They have seen my collection,saw a bunch of rou. & NCV chips asked about them. I tried to explain harvesting, as opposed to stealing. Like never brought to casino for higher deom., or extra chips in poker tour. ect. Most just didn't understand,what good are the chips, why would anyone purchase.I just couldn't connect, untill I said the thrill of harvesting, is like sex, it is fun and addicting, and profitable, and just a small part of collecting chips. Anyone else in the collecting club have a better answer?