point, it doesn't really matter anymore. The Venetian poker room contact says he looked at the tapes & provided me with his deduction / opinion. I asked those persons & they both emphatically said no. They're my friends -- just like everyone that plays in those tourneys are ALL friends -- I can't NOT believe them. It wasn't an issue the first two Whiner Invitationals NOR the last three & that suits me fine. Plus we're in a much more enjoyable venue now & I really do appreciate that no one has "extracted" any chips. Maybe that's why I'm so vocal about this issue -- because I actually do know the time & effort to arrange even a small tournament like ours & have experienced the wrath of an angry poker room manager (other than Gene ).

Bedo