I meant to agree with another Jim too. <G>

Having a business that claims to have experts grading casino chips that include in their criteria for grading how much a chip has been cleaned is ludicrous. Cleaned or dirty doesn't matter.

Another problem that I'm beginning to have serious concerns about is ANY claim by a grading company being able to find what they call "uninterested third parties" to do the grading. The ONLY people who are experts in this hobby are fully vested in the value of their own collections. Show me one person in this hobby that could be legitimately classified as an expert that isn't also a collector and/or dealer. .....show me just one.

ICG doesn't realize that chip collecting is still a hobby, even when some of us spend over $1000 for a chip.

Bob :-)