You presume right. I study and learn more & more about the chips every day and I do use your site for a reference Rich. Someone asked me what publication I took that scan from and I told him to check the post because my email will not allow me to attach anything. I should have put that info in the original post but I forgot to do it so I added the credit due post. As far as the chip goes, I am conviced that it must have been harvested from the club before it had a chance to get much table wear. I did not mean or suggest that your web site has errors at all. I get up at 5AM to go to work and get home at 6:30PM six and seven days a week and when I get home I get to do a few of my favorite things. I get a hug from my dog, play some on line poker, and I check out the posts on the Chip Board. I do it for fun but THIS is not fun! WOW... can we lighten up a bit?