I thought we had agreed that they are jetons (as Tom also states) and as the section is clearly called roulette CHIPS then it is incorrect to place them there so I am not just claiming that they are jetons, they are jetons as you agreed and Tom also states.
The Portsmouth ones are under jetons as the London ones should be and it is an abnormality for the London ones already listed under roulette CHIPS to be there as no others are in the guide (as far as I am aware), surely it makes more sense as they stand out as not being quite right.
And I didn't claim that they were unimportant and shouldn't be placed under roulettes so please stop making things up. I explained clearly why I thought they should be under jetons but obviously, you can't get your head around that. That is not my fault.
As to crest and seal, they were used on roulette (and also other games like cards) but I don't think there is a section called crest and seals so it is irrelevant and nothing to do with this discussion.
The Portsmouth ones are listed under jetons so why should the London ones be under roulette chips? No reason at all, they had the same use.
As I said, as they are JETONS that is where they should be listed maybe with a note to say that they were used on the French roulette tables as that covers all the bases and fits better, in my opinion. Listing them as roulette CHIPS is incorrect as they (by Toms, mine and your own definition) are JETONS. Are you getting it yet?
The type of item should be placed above what type of table they were used on in most cases, I would have thought.
You keep waffling on all you like but I've said my piece and explained why I believe they should be listed under jetons so please stop making things up that I didn't say as it isn't right. If you don't like it or don't agree, fine, that's entirely up to you. Thanks.