No sour grapes. Just don’t want to see anyone make the same mistake I did. I agree with everything you said. Unfortunately, because this is a Club we re all tied an grouped together. So one bad apple spoils the bunch. CCA has some in house issues the need to address before they consider recruiting. And it should be done ASAP because recruiting is the lifeline of any group. I probably share Bonds of other organizations with many of the members here. So these words do not fall on deaf ears. I have a happy blessed life and don’t need or want to be apart of the things I have seen recently. Honesty, integrity, promise keeping. These are some of the ethical norms I try to follow. That seems to be lost here. I’m not looking to bash anyone. But I will give my honest experience in hope to deter anyone from making the same mistake (joining) that I did. Hope to see you at a convention bud. Thanks for keeping the convo civil. Cleveland Fincham