OK Jim well said and your point is well taken .... I’m a little surprised that the person submitting a name for a valuation should have to sell that person to the Hall of Fame members that person is probably well known within the club and everyone can easily take a survey or look into the background that individual and his or her contributions to the hobby in the club that should be your committees job not the people nominating from the membership anyway if The process sounds too complicated it should be a simple up and down vote and I think the Hall of Fame members that abstain from voting should be shamed they’re just dragging their feet and they should vote yes or no take care and stay safe Jim