Mitch, i dont hate anybody and i dont take anything on a personal level...i love a good debate, and you are right, it does not belong on a "chip" message board. but sometimes i feel compelled to stir the pot and start a conversation.

i believe our out-dated, polarizing, two-party system is the real source of hatred and negativity, not my posts.

thanks mitch, you have made many good points, i appreciate the feedback, respectfully, steve