So what you are saying is that you have no idea or never read the thread about your club members trashing Joe Pavlik? I find that very hard to believe because I'm sure it was one of the incidents that caused you to write about positivity. You seem to be very active on this board so I am shocked that you missed that thread. How convenient that you did...it shows your wonderful club members sinking to an all-time low. I'm sure you don't want to comment on any part of that.