It's not the murder that you disapprove of, it's the lack of civic charity that you don't like. Dalitz is fine because he gave back to the community???

I was the one who made the Dalitz comparison. You seem to have a bit of respect for some mobsters and not for others. Maybe you'd come listen to a few give a talk, but not others? I bet there are PLENTY of people who would disagree and believe Dalitz was a MONSTER. Should they tell you that YOU should be ashamed to think otherwise?

You can have your opinion, fine. But please don't tell the club they should be ashamed because they set the bar below the level YOU think is appropriate.