Helping me with submitting chips and I'll see what he says. I do understand and know what you are talking about, By the way thanks for the great seminar at the convention on the future of the Chip Guide and the Mogh, really great to see all the new advancements. I visited the Mob Museum and also talked to Doug Smith about expanding or adding more items there. Thanks Charles and I try and scan all my newer finds at a higher resolution but some of my older scans are not as good., Torrey