.... for a long time, the "Antiguo Palacio del Valle" of Cienfuegos, we have accepted as being the origin of these chips, a large number were found there, the writing in the entrance is similar, we know that over the years this place, beautiful I may add, was many things, and as a club there is clear documentation that there was gambling internally. That and other different data strongly suggest this. So, when we speak about it we refer to it as such with little doubt.

However, when it comes to a catalog, we have to say that there is no 100% confirmation yet, like we do with the AG-Artistica Gallega, and others. As we do not have a photo of the chips in a picture of its club, or paper documentation that these exact chips were used there. In other words, we do not have 100% proof, yet. But have as much info as you can get in many other Cuban places. Also, the other names used were PROVEN to not even exist, much less gambling.

Also, trying to be nice to somebody who seems to just be following the old names from Cuba.

Hope that is what you were looking for, I say something similar below, but again, I am still trying to be nice on first post as I do not want to get into a war with somebody who has done zero research and whose only intention to join is to sell. Which I do not have any problems with, as long as there is only intention to sell chips not research or knowledge. Already have enough problems.