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Re: Really?
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David, that bit of misdirection misses the point entirely. It's not a question of what I know or how long ago hotstamp cancellations were being removed. Nor is it a matter of whether one can detect a removed cancellation by tilting a chip in the light. From what I can tell, the filled cancellation hole in the chip which appears in the Heritage Auctions advertisement is apparent without tilting or any other special detection method.

And let's be clear - I am not the one who claimed that the Heritage Auctions advertised chip was "disturbing."

However, the issue in both instances is clear: both the Heritage Auctions chip and the chip appearing in the Club auction were cancelled. In both cases, an attempt has been made to eliminate the cancellation - one by removing the hotstamp, the other by filling the drill hole. In both cases, full disclosure of the modification has been made. Neither should be more "disturbing" than the other.

Since you asked, the Committee on Standards and Archives spent two years carefully studying the question of altered, modified, repaired, fake and counterfeit chips. A report and recommendation was submitted to the Club's Board of Directors and was not adopted. As you are surely aware, it is extremely difficult to devise a policy or rule that covers all situations. It is even more difficult to construct a fair, reasonable and definitive enforcement scheme.

I repeat: I am not the one who suggested that the Heritage Auctions chip (or its description) is "disturbing." The point of my post was that we should not be casting stones when we ourselves are sanctioning the same - or very similar - actions.

Michael

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HERITAGE AUCTIONS! sad
Perhaps a representative from the club...
Michael, While I am unhappy as well to see this
Re: Michael, While I am unhappy as well to see thi
Whoa, thats one heck of a sentence
I love commas!!!!! rofl
Not only have they not done anything wrong ...
Sheldon, here is something we need to think about.
Re: Sheldon, here is something we need to think ab
It doesn't have to be an admonition
That would be like a policeman pulling you over
Well put Steve. I would be willing to bet 90% of
I don't see that as being a good analogy at all
The ccgtcc does not "govern" the hobby...
Fair enough
I would suggest that members of "ChipTalk"
Michael, I see nothing wrong with bringing this to
Doug -- I'm with David on this one...
Steve, Unfortunately I think there is a real need
That's fine, Doug...when you discuss this, you
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Re: HERITAGE AUCTIONS! sad
Re: HERITAGE AUCTIONS! sad
Lets take a step back for a minute.
Re: Lets take a step back for a minute.
Since I have not yet seen the magazine, is it...
Easy To Spot
Barry's right...
Thank you for providing the picture grin
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Compelled to Respond! vbg
The answer would be No because I am fairly certian
Re: The answer would be No because I am fairly cer
Thats always what I have been told.
Does this apply to businesses as well?
Nope, I was mistaken and have been corrected.
Sorry Doug, but not a requirement that I...
My Mistake on the requirement or membership.
Very well said Jim and I agree.
Honesty is bad?
Really?
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That report
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