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Where will the money come from?

Some background from Wikipedia on the subject:

It is instructive to note that the $2.5 Trillion Social Security Trust Fund has value, not as a tangible economic asset, but because it is a claim on behalf of beneficiaries on the goods and services produced by the working population. This claim will be enforced by the United States Government although the precise monetary mechanism of enforcement is yet to be determined. In order to repay the Trust Fund, the United States government has three options, which may all be pursued to varying degrees.

(1) The government may issue debt by selling treasuries, which would further raise the deficit. This scenario would likely increase the tax burden on future generations, as annual interest payments on the national debt would increase. If government revenues do not increase sufficiently either through taxes of economic growth, the government would be forced to cut spending on other programs (such as Defense, Education, Research) or else default on all or part of the debt.

(2) The government may raise taxes. Ironically, by reducing take home pay for workers, the government would make it harder for the younger, working generations to invest and save for retirement.

(3) The government may monetize trust fund obligations by transferring the treasuries held by the Trust Fund onto the Federal Reserve balance sheet. In such a transaction, the bonds would become "assets" on the Fed's balance sheet, and the Fed would create money "out of thin air" to purchase the bonds from the government. Under such a scenario, the bonds are converted into cash, which would then be used by the government to cover social security payments. This scenario would likely lead to increased inflation, as it would inflate the money supply without directly increasing the amount of goods and services produced by the economy as a whole.

While there are many options for financing social security in the short-term, there is no government program, aside from promoting massive immigration or raising the retirement age, which can instantly change the demographic aspects that affect the sustainability of social security. The program's sustainability is directly tied to the number of workers supporting each retiree. As the ratio of retirees to workers increases due to the retirement of the Baby Boomers, it is an economic identity that productivity among the working population must increase in order to support the same living standard as before. This is true because there are fewer workers available to produce the same amount of goods and services. If productivity does not rise fast enough to offset to loss of productive workers, the national standard of living in the United States may fall.

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There is an additional (more likely) possibility which might be added to these three options. In accord with Obama's plan to redistribute wealth and income, money to fund the claim on dollars in the Trust Fund will be increasingly paid by more progressive income taxation to minimize monetary inflation by reducing the accumulated wealth and higher income of the wealthier and higher-paid in the tax base. This can be seen in last week's disclosure of plans to add a 3.9% tax to certain kinds income of those making $200,000 and up and by clawing back a similar percentage when SS benefits are distributed to the upper income retirees.

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Thinking Out Loud
I notice Nancy Grace not only mentions number ~~~
Again you aren't paying attention
I'll only tell you that my meds set me back $4 ~~~
Ever hear of Socialism
Everytime the GOP does not like something.
What is anyone supposed to think...
Wait 'till the next shoe drops ..
Re: Wait 'till the next shoe drops ..
Re: Ever hear of Socialism Security Check; monthly
Re: Ever hear of Socialism Security Check; monthly
Incorrect Robert
Bob, Have you been watching Glenn Beck, again? grin
I switch
Those Monies were wisly used
Where will the money come from?
Re: Those Monies were wisly used
John many people who are very well off do not
Fred, not rare at all.
...and even more refreshing; not a one of us has
Re: ...and even more refreshing; not a one of us h
Phone Glenn Beck; he certainly will know. vbg
As I said
Re: Ever hear of Socialism Security Check; monthly
Re: Ever hear of Socialism Security Check; monthly
They don't control it
Re: They don't control it
I'd like to see your personal answers...
I'm willing to go the increase = to and even + ~~~
so...
What tax or fee is an option?
Options?

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