I'd love to hear from someone, anyone, who was refused coverage for a pre-existing condition who has found an insurance company that will cover them today. Just one. That ain't gonna happen, because that's not what this "reform" does immediately.

Enectment schedules have been broadcat for the past 12-months... and published in every American newspaper during each writ of the raw bill(s).

Please provide a link to a source that will unequivocally state the pre-existing coverage will be available to anyone who wants it before 2014.

Some make it sound like this all came about last Tuesday... though the well-read have been fully aware of this way before Obama even won the election.

FDR would have done it if he could have. It was a Ted Kennedy dream since the 1960's.

...and as far as the numbers go, nothing said here on this board thus contradicting CBO scores is factual.

Since the CBO numbers are only (and can only) be based on what projections Congress has given them, without the opportunity to challenge them on any point, those numbers are skewed. Guesses made with an agenda.

It's so obvious who all is not reading the newspapers or not visiting our government sites... and to come on here saying "I do not trust my government" does not cut it. In fact, it's down right silly. This is the United States of America.

The majority of America's print media is leftist biased. The government sites? Where was the final health care bill presented to the public 5 days before being signed into law, like Obama promised would happen with all major legislation? Barry, Harry and Nancy are all in the same boat. Nancy Pelosi earlier this month: "But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy." Have to pass it so we can find out what's in it?!? You see nothing wrong with that?

It's the same old Glenn Beckerishness; kill the elderly and decide who gets medical attention, when... and the 1,600 IRS agents knocking on doors to collect taxas is is far fetched as every 3rd-Grade level script I see at online-right-wing sites.

So you are denying there will be new IRS agents (1600 might not be enough) hired just to monitor compliance to this new law?

Bob, the purpose of me saying what I am is that some should be a wee bit more prepared before they start shouting... as thus far all who side with the obstructionists are being shot down pin after pin when they make non-factual remarks. No problem with one voicing their opinion, but a little fact checking, first... serves well. This is the Republican Party talking silly, Bob; a party I have been part of all of all my adult life... and it's now gone completely downhill leaving no possible contribution for the fix we need. I think they need to get their act together; find a leader... and pitch in.

The purpose of my voicing my opinions to what I see the Obama administration doing isn't radical obstructionism, and it isn't based on political ideology. It is based on real world numbers being put forth by economists and accountants who have no political agenda. The "fix" we needed was more of a tune up than scrapping the car with the county's economy sitting in the front seat when the crusher slams down upon it.

BTW, nobody on the face of the earth knows what'll be in store for us by 2019... Does that mean we should have done nothing regarding H'care...?

Portability and tort reform would have been a great start. Soundly rejected by Democrats.

I will admit that tax structure(s) need to be worked with a fine tooth comb... but a least now we have something to work with where both parties should come together... Yes, I'm a firm believer in Tax breaks... but a no-tax-me structure is completely foolishness. This ain't passing me lightly, either.

There's absolutely no "no-tax-me structure" in this bill. It will affect every American directly in what they pay in taxes, every business in what they pay in taxes, the costs of all goods and services to everyone, or the ability for American businesses of any size to employ people. Obama's real legacy will be "I screwed America when she could least afford it".

Also... Check out ww.WhiteHouse.gov where you can see a word-for-word explaination of who, where and when benefits kick in.

Now that is truly a living document, subject to change on a daily basis. Too bad some on the left believe our Constitution fits in the same category.