"I used to count as well...but it became a pain in the butt. I didnt have fun any more. I dont play for the money, although winning is great. I have a real job, so I play for entertainment. Counting was just simply another job."

I had my own little system that was a combination of them all. I did save money by betting small on low and negative counts. The problem I found was betting big on a high count and the dealer gets the 20 or BJ. Now I play for the fun of it, but I still like to sit at third base and watch the cards.

Barry