They take too long. I do OK with them at least better than 50% $10 double is about my max, but it actually takes less time to play 6 or 9 player. Bottom line is they will not let you make a living off of one game and you have to keep changing it up or at least it seems that way. The thing that is great is... each game makes me a better player but I do have my favorites. Now if I could just do so good on Wednesday nites. I consider our Wednesday night club games as TOP competition... some great players and consistent great play. Playing against the draw players I can usually push a few players arround... come Wednesday night I have to have my best game on... and that is not enough! Wednesday nights... you have to be GOOD and LUCKY! I have always loved this game.