This LDG Hub mold also has the unusual insert like the Horseshoe chip from a couple days ago. It looks as if the insert goes all the way accross the chip making it a "HALF PIE w1 bisecting insert" or something like that. I will not be drilling the chip to find out but would like to hear from somebody that knows for sure. TGT shows the LDG chip as "unknown." Yesterday was a great chip day with some very nice trade offers. Thanks to all who contacted me and God Bless all who come here.