Thanks for the insight Don- so it may be a 50-50 if I purchase one then, huh. As for the Cali chips- I think I've fallen into a few of those traps this year. I bought a couple Western Clubs, luckily someone took them off my hands. Matty's Tropics: I got several different opinions and ended up purchasing the $1 chip. Some say California, some say Vegas. hmmm...and yes, I do use Greg's page as a reference (I actually have one submission on there!). I also use Paul's old site- now run by Mr.Spragg I guess as well as oldvegaschips.com. Without looking at my spreadsheet I have about 80 or so left from LV. Those will take years I know!!!