both Patchman & Bullseye and the seller have been quite honorable in my dealings with them. My bids are all over the map...sometimes below a dollar value, sometimes above. I personally wouldn't pay more than $150 for that chip as prices on many Hard Rock chips seem to be in decline. If I had wanted it, my bid would have been just under $150, so I guess according to your insightful analysis, I would have also been a "shill" bidder. Steve Bedo