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The Chip Board Archive 17

A little bit of over-reaction I think

I guess its pretty easy for readers to misinterpret information in posts, or not follow entire threads, and then manage to imply grossly exaggerated statements from them grin

Gene pointed out recently he has 113 different items in his Borland 'counterfeit' file.
Lets expand a bit on that. It includes non-NV and also some that could not be mistaken for the real thing.
All in all, when you include the Osborne chips, there are about 100 different chips we know to have been counterfeited/manufactured after the casinos closed.
All but maybe 15 of these have been long known to and documented by the catalog editors and other experts. Information on those would only be 'new' to 'new collectors'. Those that were around in 1991-1996 knew about most of this at the time.
For the record, some listings are missing from James' book as he deliberately chose to omit them, albeit he contacted me 6 months ago to seek info for adding them to the next issue.

There are approx 25,000 different 'real' Nevada chips known. All the chips we have identified are of low value in either their real or fake state. Therefore, this is not the major issue some of you make out grin

All we have done is identified a few extra counterfeits in recent times.

I am not aware of any 'conspiracies' or 'hoards' of previously unknown counterfeits grin

Most of any 'wrongdoing' implied in recent threads on the topic occurred at the time, 12-15 years ago, not last week!
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Onto the next issue which was the number of chips Borland made/had made.
I did post this elsewhere but it probably got lost down the page.

Several people seem to have interpreted it as "Borland made 100,000 counterfeits"
Ive no clue where that came from as I said nothing like it.

I stated that Jim Blanchard had found records totalling some 100,000 chips.
That included 98,000 of the dated commemorative chips + a few others.
Jim only scratched the surface - he made chips for Borland almost daily for several years, BUT
Jim did not make any of the counterfeit chips - only commemoratives, personal chips, home game sets and real chips.
He would have supplied Borland with whatever blanks he asked for but there would not be any detailed record of this.
I formed an opinion that Borland probably ordered 1,000,000 chips from Blanchard and was more prolific than Paulson at the time. Jim agreed grin
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We've seen many varied comments re Borland in recent times. Ive had many more by email.
Ive had ad's running in the club mag for over a year asking for any and all information on Borland. How come none of these people volunteered any info prior to me making a contentious post here? I dont know grin

I am going away for a few days from tonight so I will have to leave it rest there and revisit in the future.
I have scanned all relevant parts of the Blue Book to try and answer questions raised yesterday and will post those later today.

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A little bit of over-reaction I think
And just to add.........
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"When I bought the Welsley plaques and jetons"
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