Thanks Gene and Don. That is what I'm referring to Don. I think Charles siad that they used some sort of abrasive on the insert but it was noticeable (if you know what you are looking for I guess). Everyone doesn't carry a 10x magnifier w/ them where ever they go. I was by no means saying that Bob would do this. Just wondering what stance the Club takes on this. I know how it feels about repairing but wasn't sure if this would fall into the same catagory.